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ABS-101
Students^ ontogenic obstacle on the topic of triangle and quadrilateral
Muh. Khaedir Lutfi (a*), Dadang Juandi (b), Al Jupri (b)
Corresponding Author: Muh. Khaedir Lutfi


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Question from Ms. Khadisa Harsela S.Pd.
2020.07.12 21:27:48

Assalaamu^alaikum Mr. Muh. Khaedir Lutfi.
Thank you very much for a great presentation. I am very interested in the topic of your article. I ask permission to ask questions regarding your article.

Firstly, on the first slide of the results and discussion section. Why do you categorize the mistakes of these students as psychological ontogenic obstacle? Is the error not due to concepts that are not understood due to lack of mastery of concepts and prerequisite material? Student answers indicate that students do not understand the concept of proportion.

Secondly, in the background. You convey that the purpose of this research is to identify students^ learning obstacle, especially on the ontogenic aspects, so that the teachers can know and anticipate them.

However, the conclusions in my opinion do not match with the purpose of this study. Maybe it^s better to go straight to the conclusion (for example):
1. Psychological ontogenic obstacle on student learning occured because it
is caused ... (for instance, as your explanation said because the learning
process is not interesting in triangle and quadrilateral topic so the
learning process becomes boring).
2. Instrumental ontogenic obstacle on student learning occured because it
is caused .....
3. Conceptual ontogenic obstacle on student learning occured because it is
caused .....

Thank you very much.
I^m sorry if there are mistakes.

Best regard,
Khadisa Harsela.
Replies:

Reply from Mr. Muh. Khaedir Lutfi
2020.07.15 12:40:17

Thanks a lot for your great questions. I really appreciate it.
The first question is regarding why that student^s mistake on the first slide of
result and discussion categorized as Psychological Ontogenic Obstacle.
Actually, when the researcher has identified the student^s mistake then the
researcher do the in-depth interview to insure that what causes the student do
that mistake. In fact, the researcher obtained information that the student
were less interested to the learning process of triangle and quadrilateral topic.
The reason of student was he did not like to learn mathematics long ago
because the learning process was boring. The student thought that there was
no a new thing learned from that topic. Those are the causes why the student
felt difficult to answer the question correctly. Based on the types of ontogenic
obstacle, that can be categorized as Psychological Ontogenic Obstacle. The
researcher also have explained that many causes which make the students do
mistakes and then get a trouble to answer or to understand a current topic.
However on that case, the researcher would like to show how the Psychological
Ontogenic Obstacle can make a trouble for student, and also how the teacher
can identify it...

for the second question.
Basicly, The researcher have concluded the findings on the point 4. All of the
types of Ontogenic Obstacle were caused by the students^ readiness in
learning. That represent all causes from each types Ontogenic Obstacle. Of
course, the researcher explained it more detail on the article because on the
presentation the researcher limited by time.

Thanks again for your great questions...


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